Why Yelp's Reviews Mean Nothing
Most folks would agree that the two secrets behind any successful website are: funding and trust. Or maybe that's just my opinion, but I've ridden the wave of two dot-com surges here in San Francisco and this is the main lesson that I've learned from it. It's the reason why Craigslist is so insanely successful with such a small staff. It's also the reason why FaceBook damned near jumped the shark when they tried to push out their beacon service that told the users they and their privacy were really just the chum needed to lure said shark to jump.
But what this tells me is that I respect Google a bit more. What does this have to do with trust and funding? Well, Google is well-funded and they seem to try to stick to their, "Don't be Evil" corporate motto as much as they can. That ties in to my pondering some time ago as to why they don't buy Yelp.com. As I said in that article, it seems like a natural fit, but then again, I've recently found out that Yelp would go a long way to poke Google's corporate mantra hard where the sun don't shine.
Yelp is doing nasty things to make a dollar. I assume they must be running low on cash reserves these days, since they can't seem to turn a profit and prefer to bicker with rational magazine articles as opposed to creating a proper business model. It appears that number one on this list of the nasty bits is that for a fee they will do a business owner a big huge favor and remove all the one and two star reviews in counting towards the overall rating of their business. This explains why it seems like everything on Yelp has between a 3.5 and a 4.5 for overall reviews. It's particularly nasty and I would call it criminal blackmail because Yelp has managed to get themselves placed very, very high in search results for many businesses. Whether they bought this SEO placement or actually earned it, the painful fact for business owners is that if they don't want the initial internet impression of their business (which in San Francisco is very important) to be a negative one from hipsters who couldn't find parking and thus gave a one star, they need to pay up to Yelp to "trim the dead wood". I was rather shocked to hear this as while I haven't taken Yelp's reviews seriously for at least two years now, there are a number of people who do. To blatantly betray any semblance of authority to the scores makes the whole site a pile of worthless ones and zeroes.
Next on the list of nasty bits is that if you go and review a site on Yelp and give it a low score, you could very easily be hearing from the owner of the business. Preying on the fact that new business owners are terrified that Yelp reviews will sink their business before it even really starts, Yelp offers a "helpful" service that allows a business owner to buy all the emails of reviewers for $150. From that point forward, the business owner is free to do whatever they want with the information, your information.
Now, I'm sure that this is all legal from the point of the TOS that Yelp reviewers sign upon joining. But, it's not legal from a user trust standpoint. Are you really going to be honest about your review knowing that the business owner will know exactly who you are and potentially bully/bribe you in to changing your review? I doubt it. Hell, it makes me not want to even submit any new reviews because if they're low they'll either a) not count or b) open me up to unwarranted invasion of my privacy.
In case you're wondering where I learned about this information, a friend of mine who works as a server at a new restaurant passed it on to me. Apparently the owner contacted a number of reviewers who had given low reviews only to get a very bad reaction due to people being unaware that their personal information was part of a highest bidder marketplace on Yelp. Now, more than just being annoyed that Yelp is pretty much just reviews by hipsters who don't share the likes/dislikes as me, I really hope that the damned thing folds because it is bankrupt in being an entity that any sane user can never hope to trust. Take a look at my profile [now dead] while you can. I'm going to be deleting it (if Yelp allows me) in the near future. I don't want to be part of this anymore and no one else should either.
Yes, I did kill off my profile. Exactly three years after starting it, I'm done with these losers, especially after reading this and this. I hope they tank, since there is no way anyone would ever want to buy them out given their desperation to fund the company.
16 11 2008 10 comments
Tags: fraud, information, san francisco, yelp
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18 11 2008 JohnMaybe, but my commentary and narrative define the parameters of the universe, such as whether it is toroid or more like an oblong sphere, whether it is actually a bunch of interconnected wormholes, or it is more like a duck on water.
13 12 2008 LoisGreat analysis! You sure are a good and balanced writer. There is a lot more on the evil empire - yelp.com. Google "yelp mess" "yelp search engine roundtable" or "yelp sucks" for a lot more.
26 12 2008 BitemeI had a profile on yelp and I had many positive reviews for some good businesses. I rated dickslastresort and had a bad experience there. *It had positive reviews and Iv never been there* Food was undercook and I never got my order after I sent it back. When I asked the waiter, he said 'shut the F**k up."
I said this place had a 'dirty mouth.'
So this person named Jamie b. said I offened her favorite place to eat and had complained so much she had me banned from the site.
So far, her and yelp are a joke and a ripoff.
26 02 2009 whatevai had a yelp account until they said i couldn't put up my blog link...whateva...
I'm going to CH...might as well get paid too after seeing this: http://www.hudin.com/blog/why_yelps_reviews_mean_nothing/#comments
17 07 2009 randyMy wife is a small biz owner. It's totally reasonable that she wants to communicate back to the nastiest reviewers (via Yelp messages...not sure about the pay for email approach). Particularly when a biz first opens and the kinks aren't worked out yet...some anonymous harpy can give you a bad rep because THEY had a bad day. Yelp owes it to small biz owners to help a little in this regard to be fair.
13 08 2009 JehovaYelp's credibility problem!
We pray YELP goes bankrupt and sinks to the bottom of hell, and takes its MAFIA YELPERS with them. We pray that GOD shows no mercy for all the damage and EXTORTION they have inflicted upon business owners and the children they support. YELP is a den of snakes and deserve to BURN for the lies and slander they spread.
They are running out of money! Praise GOD!
BTW-I have 200+ fake accounts with YELP!
PRAY PSALMS 140 FOR THEIR DESTRUCTION!
http://www.mebark.org/
21 10 2009 janetYelp is a complete racket! I have had eight 5 star reviews removed but one disgruntled associate loses her job and spends the next two months becoming an elite yelper just so she can post a fake negative review about my business. And, it will never be removed. Now they call weekly to get me to advertise on their site. They want me to pay them money to facilitate a blank bitching board for any peon to write any biased review about my business without any verification or recourse? Oh Yes, now businesses can respond but that doesn't affect the star rating which is what clients see when they do a search. I am astonished that there is no legal recourse. I am so looking forward to Yelp going down. They are greedy bastards and deserve to be sued into oblivion.
12 01 2010 ScottfordIt sounds like the momentum is building for full disclosure which can lead to a suit. There is not integrity to Yelp. I've had unbiased, unsolicited 5-star reviews about my business removed, with no explanation.
19 01 2010 LSI agree Yelp site for business has very odd behaviours. Hard to understand logic of what is going on. Can create listing as a Business owner and never see it on line. No response to email inquiries. Funny… Yelp is getting bad reviews all over the world.
Their advertising offers are also can be seen as an upfront uninformed or fraud. I was offered 700 impressions per month for my business on Yelp. But according to Google search data, there is only 400 total monthly searches for my key words. I asked the sales person, how can they provide me with more views then total amount of searches and he said that people who are looking for related services will also see my ad. Silly…. Ha?
15 03 2010 Peter JInitailly I was surprised by how 'literate' and wordy most Yelp! reviews were. I think I found out why when I stumbled upon an ad for 'Yelpers' in, I think, Austin TX. I reckon the vast majority of their reviews are 'paid for' - hence the drain on their VC resource. They are effectively paying their reviewers to generate business leads!
